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		<title>By: Veribatim Web Design and Consultation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Media: The Good, The Bad &#38; The Money</title>
		<link>http://www.blogexplosion.net/2008/01/09/why-stumbleupon-is-bad-for-your-niche-site/comment-page-1/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>Veribatim Web Design and Consultation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Media: The Good, The Bad &#38; The Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.blogexplosion.net/2008/01/09/why-stumbleupon-is-bad-for-your-niche-site/comment-page-1/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, great points to consider.  If you are wanting to build a long term site, such as a personal or professional site/blog, then SU is probably a good deal.

However, and I stand by my findings on this, if you have a niche site trying to get an increase in the SERP&#039;s, then SU probably isn&#039;t a good choice, especially if you already have your Adsense ads on it.  Now, you could take your Adsense ads off if it, and then run your SU campaigns, and once things die down, put them back on.

It&#039;s just a bad idea to run adsense on a niche site that you have submitted to SU, especially due to smart pricing and the low CTR.

Thanks for stopping by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, great points to consider.  If you are wanting to build a long term site, such as a personal or professional site/blog, then SU is probably a good deal.</p>
<p>However, and I stand by my findings on this, if you have a niche site trying to get an increase in the SERP&#8217;s, then SU probably isn&#8217;t a good choice, especially if you already have your Adsense ads on it.  Now, you could take your Adsense ads off if it, and then run your SU campaigns, and once things die down, put them back on.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a bad idea to run adsense on a niche site that you have submitted to SU, especially due to smart pricing and the low CTR.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Clegg</title>
		<link>http://www.blogexplosion.net/2008/01/09/why-stumbleupon-is-bad-for-your-niche-site/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Clegg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great discussion here!  I agree that SU does bring in a mass amount of sub par traffic in terms of AdSense CTR.  I also agree that the *best* CTR traffic comes primarily from natural search hits, as such visitors are far more likely to click on those familiar search engine links.  

I suppose the primary issue - as some have already pointed out - is what type of traffic do you want in the first place?  There is definitely an advantage to running a StumbleUpon campaign to drive up the overall hits on a brand new site thereby creating a greater search engine stream down the road.  

All in all, my assessment is that, while a useful approach, any SU or similar campaign is only *one* approach for getting great traffic.

-Jason

&lt;em&gt;Jason Clegg&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://mindfulsource.com/2008/01/30/are-there-categorical-imperatives/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Are There Categorical Imperatives?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion here!  I agree that SU does bring in a mass amount of sub par traffic in terms of AdSense CTR.  I also agree that the *best* CTR traffic comes primarily from natural search hits, as such visitors are far more likely to click on those familiar search engine links.  </p>
<p>I suppose the primary issue &#8211; as some have already pointed out &#8211; is what type of traffic do you want in the first place?  There is definitely an advantage to running a StumbleUpon campaign to drive up the overall hits on a brand new site thereby creating a greater search engine stream down the road.  </p>
<p>All in all, my assessment is that, while a useful approach, any SU or similar campaign is only *one* approach for getting great traffic.</p>
<p>-Jason</p>
<p><em>Jason Clegg&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://mindfulsource.com/2008/01/30/are-there-categorical-imperatives/' rel="nofollow">Are There Categorical Imperatives?</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.blogexplosion.net/2008/01/09/why-stumbleupon-is-bad-for-your-niche-site/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, thanks for stopping by.  I&#039;m not so much complaining about the bounce rate, but just warning people that if they are promoting a niche site, be prepared for a possible high volume from SU that could affect their adsense pricing.  It has happened to me, and the content was great (too great) and my bounce rate was around 25%.  

The problem is with such a high volume, and no clicks on adsense ads like a &quot;normal&quot; day for a niche site, it can get you smart priced in a hurry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, thanks for stopping by.  I&#8217;m not so much complaining about the bounce rate, but just warning people that if they are promoting a niche site, be prepared for a possible high volume from SU that could affect their adsense pricing.  It has happened to me, and the content was great (too great) and my bounce rate was around 25%.  </p>
<p>The problem is with such a high volume, and no clicks on adsense ads like a &#8220;normal&#8221; day for a niche site, it can get you smart priced in a hurry.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.blogexplosion.net/2008/01/09/why-stumbleupon-is-bad-for-your-niche-site/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or you could look at it this way. The only way an SU user is going to explore / stay on your site is if its DAMN good or has exactly what they&#039;re looking for.

You can&#039;t complain if you&#039;re getting a lot of bounces. Just make it worth while for the savvy SU surfer. If you&#039;re trying to get them to click on your banners good luck.

sorry, don&#039;t mean to sound harsh. but i work in advertising myself. and i bend over backwards to avoid it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or you could look at it this way. The only way an SU user is going to explore / stay on your site is if its DAMN good or has exactly what they&#8217;re looking for.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t complain if you&#8217;re getting a lot of bounces. Just make it worth while for the savvy SU surfer. If you&#8217;re trying to get them to click on your banners good luck.</p>
<p>sorry, don&#8217;t mean to sound harsh. but i work in advertising myself. and i bend over backwards to avoid it.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.blogexplosion.net/2008/01/09/why-stumbleupon-is-bad-for-your-niche-site/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet Rock,

I like SU also, but for the right sites.  If you are running adsense and don&#039;t get a lot of CTR for your niche site, SU might actually do more harm than good.  By niche site, I am talking about the type of site that you aren&#039;t so much worried if people read your posts.  You are wanting them to click your ads or affiliate ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet Rock,</p>
<p>I like SU also, but for the right sites.  If you are running adsense and don&#8217;t get a lot of CTR for your niche site, SU might actually do more harm than good.  By niche site, I am talking about the type of site that you aren&#8217;t so much worried if people read your posts.  You are wanting them to click your ads or affiliate ads.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.blogexplosion.net/2008/01/09/why-stumbleupon-is-bad-for-your-niche-site/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point for your site, by the way, it is all jumbled up on Firefox.  I&#039;m using a 1024x768 resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point for your site, by the way, it is all jumbled up on Firefox.  I&#8217;m using a 1024&#215;768 resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Masked Man</title>
		<link>http://www.blogexplosion.net/2008/01/09/why-stumbleupon-is-bad-for-your-niche-site/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Masked Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you could call my site a niche site, but it&#039;s designed to be popular even with return visitors or stumble traffic.  &quot;ooo, Simpsons ringtones&quot; everyone loves the Simpsons... ;)

&lt;em&gt;Masked Man&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheMaskedDispatcher/~3/214162846/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Funny Video - The Simpsons’ The Raven&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you could call my site a niche site, but it&#8217;s designed to be popular even with return visitors or stumble traffic.  &#8220;ooo, Simpsons ringtones&#8221; everyone loves the Simpsons&#8230; <img src='http://www.blogexplosion.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><em>Masked Man&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheMaskedDispatcher/~3/214162846/' rel="nofollow">Funny Video &#8211; The Simpsons’ The Raven</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Rock Media</title>
		<link>http://www.blogexplosion.net/2008/01/09/why-stumbleupon-is-bad-for-your-niche-site/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Rock Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love StumbleUpon! I notice it&#039;s just like any other social media site where the better my title the more traffic I get.  

I personally think it&#039;s great when I get more comments on my posts because my stumbleupon traffic was way up for a day  and if my ads get clicked once in a while - that&#039;s awesome.

The fact people are actually reading my posts is what&#039;s ultimately more important to me.

Don&#039;t think twice before submitting to StumbleUpon - just do it!

&lt;em&gt;Sweet Rock Media&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.sweetrockmedia.com/wiki_search/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What is Wikia Search?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love StumbleUpon! I notice it&#8217;s just like any other social media site where the better my title the more traffic I get.  </p>
<p>I personally think it&#8217;s great when I get more comments on my posts because my stumbleupon traffic was way up for a day  and if my ads get clicked once in a while &#8211; that&#8217;s awesome.</p>
<p>The fact people are actually reading my posts is what&#8217;s ultimately more important to me.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think twice before submitting to StumbleUpon &#8211; just do it!</p>
<p><em>Sweet Rock Media&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.sweetrockmedia.com/wiki_search/' rel="nofollow">What is Wikia Search?</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Frank C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good, my comment showed up. I was worried for a minute.

I&#039;ve not really cracked that affiliate marketing nut myself. I&#039;ve tried both running them on mini-sites, niche blogs and landing pages. I got conversions on landing pages but the Adword cost was too high to make it profitable. For the other sites, including OpTempo, the CTR has been good, generally around 10-20%, but the conversion rate has been quite low. I&#039;d make the assumption that if the traffic can be increased while keeping the CTR roughly the same that the conversion would improve.

&lt;em&gt;Frank C&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Optempo/~3/213862795/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Secret Guide to Social Blogging Success - Part VI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good, my comment showed up. I was worried for a minute.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not really cracked that affiliate marketing nut myself. I&#8217;ve tried both running them on mini-sites, niche blogs and landing pages. I got conversions on landing pages but the Adword cost was too high to make it profitable. For the other sites, including OpTempo, the CTR has been good, generally around 10-20%, but the conversion rate has been quite low. I&#8217;d make the assumption that if the traffic can be increased while keeping the CTR roughly the same that the conversion would improve.</p>
<p><em>Frank C&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Optempo/~3/213862795/' rel="nofollow">Secret Guide to Social Blogging Success &#8211; Part VI</a></em></p>
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